you'll read about it in the book when he was a little boy that changed his life in terms of faith and religion. deeply religious, and yet he was completely devastated by this event. he felt like nothing. he felt like if he could be hunted down like an animal, if he could see his friend getting killed, just, like, he could not understand it, he could not compute it, but the last time i saw him, he was in a relationship. he had a job. the person he's with has several chirp, so he was a step dad, and he seemed, if not happy, in a better place than when i met him. you know, time heals, sometimes. people move on. >> to assume this happens in our places too, so have you found anything? >> you know, one thing that i found while reporting this book, there was so much i didn't know; right? it's, like, anything, you know? writing a book is like getting a ph.d. on something. one thing i found out is that practically not one state has not had a hate crime against latinos, lately, but also his story going -- we have a pretty -- it's in the book. there's a whole chapter on that. we have a pretty dismal hist